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Evangelia
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2008, 08:28:41 AM »

When I returned in Greece in 2004, I realised that it was easier for the IEK graduates to find a job in conservation than it was for the TEI graduates. I also found that it is quite hard for a university graduate to find a job in Greece, perhaps because in Greece there is no university for conservators. There is only one TEI, located in Athens, and approximately 40 students are enrolled annually, whereas there is a number of private and state IEKs. A personal estimation is that in an excavation field, 10 people are IEK graduates, 2-3 are TEI graduates and 1 or even none is a university graduate. I assume that this is because of budget restrains. An IEK graduate is less well paid than a TEI graduate, not to mention a university graduate. What makes it even harder for conservators to find a job in Greece is that most places require for applicants to have several months' professional experience.
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Evangelia Kyriazi
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 04:47:13 PM »

I have been reading with curiosity about the situation in Greece as you present it, and I found this kind of information is very useful for people. I have even recommended this topic to my friend, a mural paintings conservator with more then 10 years of experience, coordinator of several worksites. She had to move to Greece some time ago and yet she couldn’t find a job in her field. If for Greek conservators it is hard, then for foreigners is it "impossible"? Do you think the situation is going to change soon?
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2008, 02:39:27 PM »

Your friend's story reminds me of a similar case. A non-greek classmate of mine, who graduated with a 1st class degree from an English university, moved in Greece straight after graduating. She stayed in Athens for a couple of years, doing voluntary work in the conservation lab of a big paintings museum but never managed to get a job. She now has a job in Dubai!

OK, Greece is a nice country, the sun, the ancient civilisation, the sea etc, etc, but if I were a non-greek, I doubt if I would like to find a job here! Life is expensive (one of the most expensive-to-live countries in Europe) and salaries are low. My first salary as a conservator was around 850 euros.

I really don't know if the whole situation will eventually change but I really hope so. A few years ago people in Greece barely knew what conservation is about - at that point I would like to add that the conservation school in the TEI of Athens was founded in the 1980s... Today people have just started to talk about conservation. New conservation-related courses are being founded, articles are being written, documentaries for the public are being made. We as individuals are the ones to make a change, we are the ones who should be responsible for making people and the state familiar with conservation, if we would ever wish for things to be changed. It is a pleasure of mine to teach fossil conservation to teenagers who come in the Natural History Museum of the Lesvos Petrified Forest in order to attend our conservation-based educational programmes. When they step in, they see the fossils as 'worthless rocks', and 3 hours later, they end up loving both the fossils and the conservator's job, making lovely comments that make me say 'oh God, I really love this job'. Who knows? Maybe one day, these teenagers, after having grown up, may take the future of this country and its museums in their hands and say "hey, when I was a kid, there was a girl out there, in the island of Lesvos, who showed me that some things need special treatment so that future generations will be able to admire them the way I have. Now I have the power -political, economical, social or whatever- to do something about it myself. Yeah, let's do something for conservation!"
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2008, 06:39:47 PM »

I have to agree with Evangelia, about the current situation. In order to work in Greece you need to have a governmental recognition from the Greek NARRIC ( or DOATAP). This paper is very important as most of the conservation work is governmental. The problem lays on the fact that there is no university degree but only the TEI (4years recognised education level between school and university , kind of a college with the European sense). Chaos came since 2003 when the Greek Narric (governmental office for recognition of degrees) refused to recognise any EU (and offcourse non-EU) Ba Hons on Conservation as there is no relevant University degree here. The EU has sewed this policy, and until this is solved any non-Greek degrees ,for Greeks or foreigners, recognitions are frozen. A temporary, ridiculous, solution is to attend the TEI, attend 5 modules and take the exams. Then your foreign BA is demoted to TEI degree. This situation is unstable and i believe sooner or later it will be solved. What we are all (non TEI degree holders) worried about is this later.         ...complicated indeed
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Aristotelis Georgio Sakellariou
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2008, 07:31:56 AM »

hello
iam amira from egypt. actually i dont know associations about restoration in egypt . i just worked for companies and
got training in egyptian museum . i hope any one knows please to inform me . it will be pleasure
thank you indeed Thanks
and sorry for my english Ashamed
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 07:35:55 PM »

For the website....you might like to copy this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_Associations_and_Professional_Organizations

And if you have time add any additional ones to the wikipedia page...
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